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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:12 am   Post subject: brainTeaser[2] (BIG HINT FROM 1) Reply with quote


The elongation α of a planet is the angle formed by the planet, Earth, and the Sun. When Venus achieves its maximum elongation of 46.3º, the Earth, Venus, and the sun form a triangle with a right angle at Venus. Find the distance between Venus and the sun in Astronomical Units (AU). (By definition, the distance between the Earth and the Sun is 1 AU.)

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V1 and V2 are the positions of Venus, E is the earth and S is the Sun. Since the distance from the Sun to Venus are the same consider SV1 = SV2 = 0.723AU. Consequently, the corresponding opposite angles are equal. So, the remaining angles are measured.

Now, using law of sines we have
[ V2E ÷ sin(xº) ] = [ 1 ÷ sin(140.6 - x)º ] = [ 0.723 ÷ sin(39.4º) ]
⇒ V2E = sin(xº)[ 0.723 ÷ sin(39.4º) ]

also, sin(140.6 - x)º = [ sin(39.4º) ÷ 0.723 ]
⇒ xº = 140.6º - sinˉ¹[ sin(39.4º) ÷ 0.723 ] = 79.208º
∴ V2E = 1.11891 astronomical units.

Again from the triangle V1SV2 , using the sine law we get
[ 0.723 ÷ sin(140.6 - x)º ] = [ V1V2 ÷ sin(101 - 2x)º ]
⇒ V1V2 = -0.708079 AU
∴ V1E = 1.11891-0.708079 = 0.42 AU


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To which part? Wink

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I got 0.7229671459095681, however it was very easy to get so I'm most likely wrong...
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man i'm too high!!! what where we talkin about again...? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:19 am   Post subject: Reply with quote


irule wrote:
I got 0.7229671459095681, however it was very easy to get so I'm most likely wrong...

Your answer is precisely correct.

[quote=the_Fallen_Chivo]man i'm too high!!! what where we talkin about again...?[/quote]
The distance between Venus and the Sun. LOL
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Yay, easy trig with no annoying calculus! Grin
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Stop with the fucking math. Makes your head spin just looking at the numbers Very Happy.
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Dami wrote:
Stop with the fucking math. Makes your head spin just looking at the numbers Very Happy.

That's okay. Your head really is spinning because the Earth is and those are circular functions.


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Well that sure makes big sense and all but really I suck at math, in school I understood the things when the class tests were done, not before. But hey I'm good at everything with the PC and languages, so who cares?
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It is very easy. I used an online trig calculator for the function sine. The sine ratio of 46.3 degrees is 0.72297. Using the rule SOH (sine = opposite side over hypotenuse), 0.72297 = distance between venus and the sun / 1. So the distance is 0.72297 Grin
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i really dont care enough to do this.. (a.k.a. i have my own calculus work to do) Peace
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