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Dark
Commodore
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: Core. Where does it come from? |
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Since we all have the understanding of the basic Genres or metal are... i wanna know where the "core" comes from.
If you have Death Metal you have Death Core... what in the fuck makes death metal end up having a core?
Please explain. |
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Dami
Commodore
Joined: Feb 04, 2005
Member#: 87
Posts: 2567
Location: Stalag 13
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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The core is just an illusion. There is no real core, since extreme metal always was cast into obscurity. Core ist just the way for the normal people to cope with something they can't understand nor comprehend. _________________ o
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cjjeepercreeper
Commodore
Joined: Nov 27, 2006
Member#: 2665
Posts: 6146
Location: At the Mountains of Madness
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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It comes from the deepest darkest depths of emo/fag hell. _________________ Not dead, just sleeping.
Memento Mori |
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Stuka_Kommandant
Commodore
Joined: Jan 01, 2007
Member#: 2872
Posts: 7303
Location: St. ARDBEG, D.C. double-central Whiskyonsin
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I knew, the cjjecorecreeper would know the right answer... . _________________ "More Whisky!" was my answer
but i can't remember the fkn question... |
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Dark
Commodore
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
Member#: 589
Posts: 3246
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Still not a definiative answer tho.
Is it just a toned down mainstream version? |
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neckfreak
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: Mar 18, 2010
Member#: 10314
Posts: 490
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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In 99% of the "core" music, there is a always a melodic breakdown - some repetitive riffs, chanting chorus, etc. The general idea is to "reduce down" real WHATEVER music, to something that can be broken into:
1. part of a song
2. chorus
Thus, an average joe can be sucked into ......core, which in the end results in some shit, being aired on MTV.
There are exceptions really, i could name DevilDriver for example, which is actually pretty decent, but in the end it has nothing to do with the style, from which it emerged from.
I need corrections here, please assist me. No bad mouthing allowed though. _________________ On the stones that we walk, and choose to make our paths,
sometimes never knowing, other times knowing too much.
- Chuck Schuldiner
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supersmoke
Vice Admiral (Moderator)
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Member#: 5788
Posts: 737
Location: Pennsylvania
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Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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It's comes from the main word Harcore, which was a genre by itself, and had all the features like breakdowns, higher pitched death-like vocals, and a faster pace than typical death metal.
Deathcore has the same characteristics, but has harsher vocals and overall heavier music, with more use of the double bass.
Metalcore is a middle ground between the two.
After that, the rest of the newer types of core are all extremely shitty, but there are several bands in the death and metalcore genre that are actually pretty good, some people are just too close-minded to look beyond the genre label. _________________ ヽヽ༼༼ຈຈل͜ل͜ຈຈ༽༽ノノ TURN DOWN THAT MUSIC IT'S SHAKING MY HOUSE |
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RAM
Commodore
Joined: Sep 11, 2009
Member#: 8800
Posts: 3271
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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supersmoke wrote: |
It's comes from the main word Harcore, which was a genre by itself, and had all the features like breakdowns, higher pitched death-like vocals, and a faster pace than typical death metal.
Deathcore has the same characteristics, but has harsher vocals and overall heavier music, with more use of the double bass.
Metalcore is a middle ground between the two.
After that, the rest of the newer types of core are all extremely shitty, but there are several bands in the death and metalcore genre that are actually pretty good, some people are just too close-minded to look beyond the genre label. |
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Dark
Commodore
Joined: Jul 25, 2005
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Posts: 3246
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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METALRAM wrote: |
supersmoke wrote: |
It's comes from the main word Harcore, which was a genre by itself, and had all the features like breakdowns, higher pitched death-like vocals, and a faster pace than typical death metal.
Deathcore has the same characteristics, but has harsher vocals and overall heavier music, with more use of the double bass.
Metalcore is a middle ground between the two.
After that, the rest of the newer types of core are all extremely shitty, but there are several bands in the death and metalcore genre that are actually pretty good, some people are just too close-minded to look beyond the genre label. |
Works for Me [/img][/i][/b] |
Agreed. |
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SeclusionSolution
Commodore
Joined: Jun 22, 2006
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Posts: 3595
Location: Papua New Guinea
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thnx to the two for getting a definition ready. It´s indeed hard to explain. I still stand my ground to claim that when u listen Pantera´s "Far beyond driven" you will get the first ground defining act to mix those styles.
To get all the technical details isn´t easy but when u hear it you´ll recognize it.
Thnx supermoke and necker _________________
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Dark
Commodore
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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SeclusionSolution wrote: |
Thnx to the two for getting a definition ready. It´s indeed hard to explain. I still stand my ground to claim that when u listen Pantera´s "Far beyond driven" you will get the first ground defining act to mix those styles.
To get all the technical details isn´t easy but when u hear it you´ll recognize it.
Thnx supermoke and necker |
I dont care what anyone says... Far Beyond Drivien was a really good album. |
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irule
Captain
Joined: Sep 20, 2006
Member#: 2410
Posts: 1379
Location: Canada
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Core... what is it good for? |
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Death_Medic
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Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Member#: 1099
Posts: 2025
Location: Chicago
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Dark wrote: |
SeclusionSolution wrote: |
Thnx to the two for getting a definition ready. It´s indeed hard to explain. I still stand my ground to claim that when u listen Pantera´s "Far beyond driven" you will get the first ground defining act to mix those styles.
To get all the technical details isn´t easy but when u hear it you´ll recognize it.
Thnx supermoke and necker |
I dont care what anyone says... Far Beyond Drivien was a really good album. |
Fuck Yeah!!! That was a bad ass album, I was just jamming out 5 Min Alone \m/ _________________ - Does this hurt ? -
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misanthrone
Commodore
Joined: Jun 09, 2006
Member#: 1992
Posts: 4046
Location: BC, Canada
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Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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core is metal's natural enemy.. therefore "metalcore" makes no sense _________________ None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Goethe
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VileVince
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Location: Oregon
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