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 Wurst
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
 
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Waffen: thx for objective post
Jeric: thats pettifoggery... how do we want to decide what styles are important... what is for example with gothic... or grind as you mentioned. I don't understand where the problem shall be if we let it as it is.
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Waffen you don't understand some of the subgenres. (your own declaration)
You don't like that there are so many subgenres. (conclusion to it)
And now you want them changed to some standard. (your own declaration)
What about MUCH work? and WHO wil do this? we already had a discussion about a think similar to this and the conclusion was : too much work / too less a problem to do the work. |
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It is a lot of work, with little to gain as a result. If we can come up with a consistent standard that everyone agrees with, BQ & I are willing to put in some man hours for this if it is that important to the Death.FM community.
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Wurst
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Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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don't you think that categorization will be very subjective? hmm ok.
How to you want to get the standard? a poll? |
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 hxchristian
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i think the genres are fine just the way they are
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Maybe Wurst is right (my own declaration)
But this dosen't mean I'm not gonna voice my opinion on stuff that I hate/like. Being infantile is something many people don't understand because they grow out of it. Don't inconsideratley judge those of us who haven't grown out of it Wurst ok!
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Jeric: Don't bother changing it now if its a load of work. I only hope 'slightly satanic with a hint of gore metal' materialises in the future
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fuck, too much work and for what?.. who cares about genres? 
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Wurst
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Maybe Wurst is right (my own declaration)
But this dosen't mean I'm not gonna voice my opinion on stuff that I hate/like. Being infantile is something many people don't understand because they grow out of it. Don't inconsideratley judge those of us who haven't grown out of it Wurst ok!
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Jeric: Don't bother changing it now if its a load of work. I only hope 'slightly satanic with a hint of gore metal' materialises in the future
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Lol i don't want to fight with you waffen, i just want to be the people to be realistic and open minded. |
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 Wally
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I Dont think Castigate is Grindcore >.>
anyway i dont see wants wrong with it. Waffen if you dont like seeing the sub genre crap dont request it and let us do that for you |
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Wurst
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exactly. |
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Wally
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It dosnt matter what genre is listed the point is to give the person an idea on what the band sounds like |
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 Pesadelo
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*** start of example ***
In the Shopping Center industry we have a similar problem. There were clothes stores, electro/electronics stores, food court, services, etc. These are the mix groups.
On clothes stores, there were some are for men, some for women, some for children, some for all, some for shoes only, some for accessories, and so on. These are the clothes subgroups.
Sometimes one wants to see statistics about the shopping at all, comparing groups. Sometimes one wants to compare subgroups of one group. Nobody wants to compare all subgroups (of all groups) together.
*** end of example ***
We cannot have distinct fields for genre and subgenre. But we could have a organized <genre - subgenre> pattern in the only field.
Both sides are rigth. Genres are the major clustering, serving for instance to form distinct groups for an Awards. Subgenres are useful for "to give the person an idea on what the band sounds like" as Wally well said.
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 Sturmgeist89
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I just wanted to say that Deathcore is Hardcore with Death Metal. There are often Breakdowns, and they use this typically "Core-Riffing". They use Pig Squeals, Screams and Growls as Vocals. So its not really normal Death Metal 
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muchojackdaniels
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i just saw whitechapel live and it was so sad that such an amazing had basically no draw |
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supersoad1
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they are so far from being partly hardcore. They dont know what they are talking about labeling them deathcore at all |
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 DOSphantom
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Says the the guy posting alt. rock in a death metal forum.  
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